My best naps happen when I have been doing heavy thinking and enter a state of semiconscousness. Some of my most creative thinking happens at this time. I'm not so sure I could get that kind of thinking done with a partner stealing my blanket or rolling over on me. Once my subconscious is awoken I can't never get that headspace back.
Tyrone van leyen
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Sleeping your life away?
by sweetface2233 in"life is too short", "carpe diem", "eat, drink, and be merry...", "never put off till tomorrow..." we have all heard these phrases, taken them to heart, and burned ourselves out on the stress from them.
i say...screw that shite!
the only thing keeping me from jumping out the window of my 6th story apt or driving my car into the back of one of the metro buses on the beltway is knowing that, if one of those actions do take place, i won't be able to nap that afternoon.
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Photos of you with someone famous?
by sacolton inanyone have any pictures of themselves with someone famous (singer, actor, author, etc.)?.
i got a chance to meet paul williams (singer/actor) of "phantom of the paradise" and composer of great many songs like.
"just an old fashioned love song", "the rainbow connection", "you and me against the world", "we've only just begun", etc .... .
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Tyrone van leyen
Thats funny Commodore! I ain't got no pics, but I did shake hands with Chretein. I was standing near the centenial flame at the millenial celebration, on parliament hill. He came towards me with camera crew and right after he shook my hand and the cameras were off me, one of his 6ft4 bodygaurds plowed me to the ground.!
I spoke with Fredrick W. Franz, and unbeleivebly he couldn't answer my question and was very rude indeed. . I waited about two hours to speak with him and I was only 16
I was in a public speaking competions, competing with regional schools in the late 70's. OJ Simpson was one of my judges. He shook my hand, and said," Good job!" Of the three, he is the most infamous and seemed like the nicest of the bunch. Talk about irony. No pics worth takin here!
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Weird weather and the end
by JimmyPage ini was out in field circus on saturday and the elder i was working with kept mentioning the weird weather patterns the world has been seeing.
now i know there is nothing in bible prophecy about weird weather being a sign of the end.
but if i were making a movie about the end of the world i would probably ramp up to the apocalypse with hurricanes, tornadoes, hailstorms, etc.
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Tyrone van leyen
I think we may be nearing the end of a processional cycle in which the age of picses ends and Aquarious begins. These cycles take thousands of years but when the planets begin to allign, avery rare occurence, the magnetic feilds in the earth will be severly disrupted. We are only seeing the beginning. It will be in full allinment on Dec. 21 2012. At this point you can expect, massive disasters and pole shifts which will summerge our contininent and Atlantis will resurface. The ancients knew all about this happening now. I really feel this has merit. I don't attribute it to the end times the bible pointed out however, because if a pole shift takes place, everyone will die. Sorry I'm not being very optomistic tonight
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Are We Doomed To Repeat Patterns?
by saywhat29 ingosh darnit, this is my attempt to pull off a minimus-esque thread that will eventually die, but just a question that has been dragging around in my head as of recently.
i've been on this psychoanalytic kick for some time (for such a time that i know 'psychoanalytic' is not the right term to use but it fooled enough of you when i said it, and that's all that matters)- especially about family dynamics, patterns, and relationships.
i've been analyzing myself recently and more importantly i've been thinking about myself and the history of my relationships with those i love.
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Tyrone van leyen
It would be a miracle if anyone saved it. It just wasn't up long enough. You are very lucky indeed. You were probably actually reading it while I was erasing. At least you have inspired me to consider writing it again. Perhaps when I feel up to doing it again, it will be even better next time. I should have left it on longer but this dam board has a time frame for erasing and if you miss it it stays forever. I was very indecisive all night about posting it. It will have to be when I have a few hours to waste. Thnks for your approval!
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Are We Doomed To Repeat Patterns?
by saywhat29 ingosh darnit, this is my attempt to pull off a minimus-esque thread that will eventually die, but just a question that has been dragging around in my head as of recently.
i've been on this psychoanalytic kick for some time (for such a time that i know 'psychoanalytic' is not the right term to use but it fooled enough of you when i said it, and that's all that matters)- especially about family dynamics, patterns, and relationships.
i've been analyzing myself recently and more importantly i've been thinking about myself and the history of my relationships with those i love.
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Tyrone van leyen
Spaznik, don't make me regret I just erased that. I have been writing it for several hours. I gotta stop erasing things like that. I'm actually glad you read it though. Dammit! Your saw right away how differnt I am from anything. I'm so glad to hear that. I wonder if anyone else caught it. I can't bring myself to write that again. I couldn't have had that on there for more than 5 minutes.
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Are We Doomed To Repeat Patterns?
by saywhat29 ingosh darnit, this is my attempt to pull off a minimus-esque thread that will eventually die, but just a question that has been dragging around in my head as of recently.
i've been on this psychoanalytic kick for some time (for such a time that i know 'psychoanalytic' is not the right term to use but it fooled enough of you when i said it, and that's all that matters)- especially about family dynamics, patterns, and relationships.
i've been analyzing myself recently and more importantly i've been thinking about myself and the history of my relationships with those i love.
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Tyrone van leyen
(Edited) For those of you that weren't quick enough, or lucky enough, it was a rare glimsp into my personal life. It was too long, off topic and very juicy. Sorry, I just get carried away. It sure felt dam good to write though!
In short, I think patterns can be changed to a point depending on the extent of the damage. Sometimes, there is scarring that runs too deep and sometimes there are behaviours that may be prone to genetics. I have a nephew. He reminds me very much of me. He is very young and very rarely ever sees me and knows me, not at all, and yet I see in his mannerisms, his speech and even his walk, myself.
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The angst of dealing with family when they are still in and you are not...
by Layla33 ini don't think you ever truly make peace with it, somehow you learn to maneveur and swim in it like most things.
i have been out for so long, it's almost like a shadowy memory when i was in, but for my family it is all they have ever known and dared to know.. i feel for the people whose parents have cut them out completely, but mine never truly did that.
i guess we just loved each other a little too much to even think about losing the other completely.
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Tyrone van leyen
This reminds me of a little story. It happened just a couple of years ago. I was labeled as a whoremonger and streetscum for many years. I had a freind who was a witness. He knew my family for many years and saw that I was a nice guy. He was not liked by the witnesses, cause he was strange and didn't fit in. People were never nice to him.
Despite that, this man had a heart of gold and loved people. Truly, even his enemies. He had credit cards and whenever someone would ask him for money he never hesitated. I'm talking tens of thousands of dollars. He made lists of all the witnesses that owed him money and kept detailed books like an accountant. All that money had to be paid back. Because he was generous, and was close to my family he extened me this privilegde as well, even though I had no means of paying him back. He didn't care.
Because I valued his kind heart, I took it upon myself to pay this man back. I felt, such goodness, in this world is rare and must be rewarded. I won't say how I managed it, but it was a lot of money, and I suffered doing it. I needed the money, but I paid this man back in three months!
The day he died, the creditors were right at his door. It turns out the money I gave him made the last three months of his life happeir, but he still owed tens of thousands of dollars from at least 6 witnesses who borrowed far more than I.
When his family came to get his posssesions, they looked at all his financial record keeping and not one, I repeat, not one of them, gave him a cent of his money back! The one they condemed as having no honour, ME, was the only one, that paid him back! His family called my parents to inform them of all the deliquent witnesses, and the fact that I was the only one that had any honour.
I tell this tale, not to blow my horn, but to shame those who judged me! Shame, Shame, Shame on you!
Your own actions speak for themselves. Despite the fact that I'm the only one that had decency, somehow these losers, are able to make me feel like an insect.
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The angst of dealing with family when they are still in and you are not...
by Layla33 ini don't think you ever truly make peace with it, somehow you learn to maneveur and swim in it like most things.
i have been out for so long, it's almost like a shadowy memory when i was in, but for my family it is all they have ever known and dared to know.. i feel for the people whose parents have cut them out completely, but mine never truly did that.
i guess we just loved each other a little too much to even think about losing the other completely.
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Tyrone van leyen
Do I ever know how you feel. I am the only one in my entire family that had the cohonies to do my own thing, and they made me pay through the nose. I was cut out of my brothers weddings and almost every significant event in a persons life. In the early days my oldest brother even slammed the door in my face and locked it, when I went home. It was horrific and made me feel like scum, wasn't even worthy of me.
I have proven over the years to them that I am honourable, but, they should already have known that. I get along now, but it's been 20 years. I have so many scars from this effin crap, my self esteem has never been the same. I know my family love me, and I love them still, too, but I have to say, that I feel like they most definately saw religion as being thicker than blood. That I don't know if I can ever forgive or forget. It sent me in the totaly wrong direction. Ultimately, I have to veiw this as brainwashing and being a result of the watchtower. It wouldn't do me any good, or them, if I actually beleive they knew what they were doing.
I have come to realize in life that no matter who you deal with, you will be disappointed in life or let down at some point. Whether it be a girlfreind, family or a best freind, human beings are a disappointment.
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INCREDIBLE claims require HUGE proofs: the story of JW's 1914 mythos
by Terry inmembers of the religious group, jehovah's witnesses, have a bond of trust with the men who run the organization.. the source of authority for that bond of trust is explained to be superior to any other and all other religious groups.. what is the basis given for the superiority of the governing body's teachings and interpretations of god's will?.
just this: a mysterious understanding.
the claim is :heavenly direction.. all religious groups claim to have an understanding leading to truth.. variously it has been the following:.
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Tyrone van leyen
Doctrine was one thing, I didn't much care for growing up, until my father explained to me the 1914 prophecy. It was that explanation, that was the glue that held everything together for me. I needed something that proved we were different and we were right. It justified going to the meetings and obeyeing the rules. Authority indeed, and it made me veiw it's relevators as having authority as well.
I was able to explain this 1914 crap as early as grade 7. I was awestruck by how all these numbers came from this ancient book and was able to have relevance to our day. This date was the sole reason for my convictions, obedience and subservience. It was a great trick to play on a little kids impressionable mind.
An impressionable and uninquizitive mind is exactly what power brokers need. Imagine if a guy like Chriss angel was around even 200 years ago walking on water or making things disappear. He would be considered a God with great authority. It is because he is skillfully directing what people see, just as the the watchtower skillfully directs, what goes into peoples heads.
As kids we all want to beleive in magic and fairytales. At least the magicians and the authors of tales don't claim to have special powers. Those that buy 1914 without questioning it, are buying into a class act of deception. Once you buy into it, you might as well accept that they got it from God.
Always read the magicians handbook. When I was young, I remember always going to the back of the second school to look at the old library we had in our hall. We even had some of Russels books. I always found it strange, that the brothers would direct me away from these books. I don't think such a library exists anymore.
Beleif is a very powerful thing and without special knowledge or a skeptical mind, you might as well beleive that Chris Angel can walk on water, just like the folks that belive Jesus did!
Nobody can deny that 1914 was a special year in history. They got that right, but the way they got it was a completely unbeleivable accident. Wrong calculations, right date. Very lucky. I totally agree with your premise Terry. It amazes me that Rutherford completely changed the magicians handbook with the exception of that date. The handbook can always be rewritten and a fresh new act can always come along, so long as the 1914 remains a constant, and the end times are always within reach.
It should be interesting to see what would happen if the GB abolished that date what would happen. The rank and file should have known by 1918, 1925, 1975 etc. that there is no Santa Claus.
It would also be interesting, if Russel would have been way off ,on the only date he ever got right. Would he have been written out of watchtower history? Would Fat ass Rutherford have given it a shot? If he did, and got his 1925 wrong, without a sucessful precedent, would he have been impeached so to speak?
If Miller had gotten his date of 1844 correct, would he have developed the hubris of Russel and Rutherford, as well as the obedient following? I say probably. People need something to beleive that is a higher authority than man. If a man correctly predicts what God has hidden, then he has God's power.
1914 was like winning the lottery, yet there are other folks who made far greater predictions in Rutherfords day, that were 10 times more accurate, consistantly, like Edgar Casey. He was popular, but didn't get the devotion that the fat ass did. Nor did he seek profit from his readings. I think this is because there were no claims of biblical authority and therfore no source of divinty, and yet he was accurate, infinately more, than anyone before or since.
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APOSTATE TROUBLE MAKERS.........
by nomoreguilt inare a very unique people, wouldn't you say?
no, we aren't trouble makers, we're just a a people that have a common bond.
save for a minority of posters here, we have all endured trials and tribulations that only we can relate to.
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Tyrone van leyen
Keep in mind, apostate is part of witness language. Although apostate may be a correct term, the word has negative connotations. I refuse to be labeled by their terms. If I am someone who disagrees with false teachings, unjust pronouncements, and conditional love, then that makes me the good guy and them the bad guy.
So how about something like " I'm a guy who opposes jerks." In fact how bout we reverse the whole thing and say it more like, we are shunning you, until you decide to take your heads out of your asses.
Could it not equally be said, that the witnesses are apostates for disagrreing with our veiws, or even the veiws of the bible. Things can be work both ways. I refuse to be conditioned to their mindset and wordplays.